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Post by Sanda on Jan 8, 2008 20:34:20 GMT -6
251. FALL OF THE HOUSE OF EWING
Original Air Date: Friday, May 15, 1987
Jenna names her baby Lucas, after her father. Ray visits Jenna at the hospital and they discuss the future. J.R. has to explain himself in front os Sue Ellen after she sees a picture in the newspaper of him and Mandy Winger. Mandy tells a shocked Bruce Harvey that she's after J.R. Doctors tell Pam that she can have a baby. Mrs. Scottfield reveals her scheme to a stunned Bobby. J.R. almost gets trapped by the Justice Department but manages to get out at the last minute. Christopher learns he was adopted. J.R. and Bobby strike a deal with the Justice Department. Miss Ellie learns of Clayton's heart problem. Sue Ellen confronts Mandy over J.R. Jeremy Wendell reveals his plot to J.R. Pam and Bobby's dream's and plans are shattered as tragedy strikes Pam when her car crashes into a tanker and explodes.
Broadcast: 15-May-1987 w: David Paulsen Directed by: Leonard Katzman
Victoria Principals last episode as Pamela Ewing
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Post by Sanda on Jan 8, 2008 20:37:25 GMT -6
IMO Dallas should have ended with this episode.  The last 4 years of Dallas was awful without Victoria Principal and Susan Howard.  The final scene of Dallas should have been the scene with JR, John Ross and Jeremy Wendell in Ewing Oil. I HATED the final scene of this episode when Pam crashes into the tanker. I am interested to hear your thoughts on this episode. |
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Post by tammie on Jan 11, 2008 5:47:03 GMT -6
Sanda, I didn't watch Dallas after VP left. I didn't like the way Pam was written out of the show. I have heard that they had a 2 year warning. You would think with that much time the writers could of come up with something else. I agree with you 100%. It should have ended. It started with PD and VP it should have end with PD and VP. Their Love story was the back bone of the show. IMO.
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Post by Sanda on Jan 11, 2008 17:35:50 GMT -6
Sanda, I didn't watch Dallas after VP left. I didn't like the way Pam was written out of the show. I have heard that they had a 2 year warning. You would think with that much time the writers could of come up with something else. I agree with you 100%. It should have ended. It started with PD and VP it should have end with PD and VP. Their Love story was the back bone of the show. IMO. I agree with you 100% that Bobby and Pam's love story was the back bone of the show.  Tammie, you didn't miss anything not watching the show after VP left the show. IMO the season without PD was much better written than the seasons without VP even though I can't stand the pairing of Pam and Mark. I also agree that writers could have come up with a lot better way for Pam to leave considering they had 2 years notice she was quitting. I don't blame VP for quitting with the type of storylines Pam was getting in her last 2 years on the show. |
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Post by bruce on Feb 9, 2008 6:33:38 GMT -6
I agree with Tammie. Pam and Bobby had great chemistry. They were the perfect counterbalance to the machinations JR. I didn't want to see Bobby or Pam with anyone else. Surprising, while I hated when Bobby and Pam were divorced, it gave the show an added boost. They got two years worth of storylines having Bobby and Pam get back together. When VP left the show, Dallas ended for me. You could tell the producers were gun shy after PD left the show and returned, that they didn't want to write Pam out completely. Very unsatisfying ending to a great love story.
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Post by Sanda on Feb 9, 2008 19:41:54 GMT -6
I agree with Tammie. Pam and Bobby had great chemistry. They were the perfect counterbalance to the machinations JR. I didn't want to see Bobby or Pam with anyone else. Surprising, while I hated when Bobby and Pam were divorced, it gave the show an added boost. They got two years worth of storylines having Bobby and Pam get back together. When VP left the show, Dallas ended for me. You could tell the producers were gun shy after PD left the show and returned, that they didn't want to write Pam out completely. Very unsatisfying ending to a great love story. I agree with you 100% Bruce and Tammie. The way Pam was witten out of the show was very a unsatisfying ending to a great love story.  Bruce that is so true that we got two years of storylines having Bobby and Pam get back together but it was 2 years too long to keep them apart. |
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Post by frankdracman on Mar 21, 2008 17:11:48 GMT -6
Well, regarding Pam, the producers feel that if she was killed off, they might've possible set themselves up for the possibility of another dream season, which really would've brought down ratings. I wouldn't have wanted Pam to be killed off, as she and Bobby were so great together. I, too, think the Dallas series should've ended with J.R threatening Wendell. That would've been perfect. It is a strong ending, but is very open-ended, especially for reunion movies down the line.
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Post by Sanda on Mar 22, 2008 18:01:48 GMT -6
Well, regarding Pam, the producers feel that if she was killed off, they might've possible set themselves up for the possibility of another dream season, which really would've brought down ratings. I wouldn't have wanted Pam to be killed off, as she and Bobby were so great together. I, too, think the Dallas series should've ended with J.R threatening Wendell. That would've been perfect. It is a strong ending, but is very open-ended, especially for reunion movies down the line. Matthew, great comments on the episode Fall of House of Ewing. I agree with you 100%. |
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Post by abbycunningham on Mar 23, 2008 14:07:10 GMT -6
I didn't like Season 10-13. Dallas is so bad after this episode when VP leaves and all the new characters they brought in after Season 9 were awful. Season 1-9 were classic Dallas.  And I'm only looking forward to owning the next two seasons that are left to be released by Warner Bros on DVD. |
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Post by Sanda on Mar 23, 2008 23:02:25 GMT -6
I didn't like Season 10-13. Dallas is so bad after this episode when VP leaves and all the new characters they brought in after Season 9 were awful. Season 1-9 were classic Dallas. And I'm only looking forward to owning the next two seasons that are left to be released by Warner Bros on DVD. I agree with you 100% that seasons 10 thru 13 are horrible without VP. I am also in no hurry to own the last 4 years of Dallas either. |
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Post by finnmove on Jun 30, 2010 11:36:07 GMT -6
That season was quite good minus Pam´s crashing against the tanker. JR finally got what he deserved though a very disgusting person Jeremy Wendell ( even more bad than JR ) got his revenge. I felt sorry for Bobby when Mrs. Scottfield came to the Ewing Oil to meet Bobby.
Bobby had no part in the BD Calhoun crap which was behind her revenge. In fact Mrs. Scottfield blamed Bobby for her husband´s suicide and used JR´s BD Calhoun case only as a cover.
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Post by Sanda on Jun 30, 2010 17:41:18 GMT -6
That season was quite good minus Pam´s crashing against the tanker. JR finally got what he deserved though a very disgusting person Jeremy Wendell ( even more bad than JR ) got his revenge. I felt sorry for Bobby when Mrs. Scottfield came to the Ewing Oil to meet Bobby. Bobby had no part in the BD Calhoun crap which was behind her revenge. In fact Mrs. Scottfield blamed Bobby for her husband´s suicide and used JR´s BD Calhoun case only as a cover. Jussi, I agree that this season was quite good. I didn't like Jenna being pregnant with Bobby's baby. I also didn't like Jenna and Ray as a pairing. Ray and Donna should have raised their daughter Margaret together. I felt sorry for Bobby losing Ewing Oil as well because of the BD Calhoun crap. Jussi, I agree that Mrs. Scottfield was pissed off about her husband's suicide and used JR's BD Calhoun case only as a cover. |
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The last 4 years of Dallas was awful without Victoria Principal and Susan Howard. 
The final scene of Dallas should have been the scene with JR, John Ross and Jeremy Wendell in Ewing Oil. 
Tammie, you didn't miss anything not watching the show after VP left the show. IMO the season without PD was much better written than the seasons without VP even though I can't stand the pairing of Pam and Mark. 
Bruce that is so true that we got two years of storylines having Bobby and Pam get back together but it was 2 years too long to keep them apart. 
And I'm only looking forward to owning the next two seasons that are left to be released by Warner Bros on DVD. 